Fairness to Harrington

[none]

I posted this on IO. Please keep it here!

You Ed bashers are a sorry bunch.

This man is doing what he platformed on. He got voted in by his ward because his ideas are what they wanted. One of those things is lower taxes. Lately, I see him exposing problems with free-loading, unethical city workers,,,,and I am glad to see him do this.

If you don't like whats going on and you are not telling your representative,,,,you are simply whining.

And if you DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY,,,,,SHUT UP! You got no place to talk.

I want my taxes lowered and any politician who I see working towards this gets my vote.

[none either]

You can't believe that Ed has any ethics. An aldermen should not be using his web site to attack city employees. Ed and the rest of the council should be working to improve Oswego and bring some new businesses here, not taking walks down bridge st looking for pealing paint and uncut lawns. I'm pretty sure that unpainted houses was not on his aggenda when he ran and if it was then anyone who voted for him is as disconnected from Oswego as he is.
What are any of the council doing to keep Oswego's young from leaving the city? How about nothing.
Ed and his followers just keep spouting that they are better than the Gosek gang so people will support them. Well the Gosek admin. is gone, and any jerk can use bad examples to make themselves look good in the publics eyes. How about one of them doing something worth while that will help Oswego in the long run. They are worse than any past council I have seen in 40+ years of living here. They do nothing except pass insane little laws that make any business that may be thinking of comming here run away.
If thats what you voted for you are as lost as the other fools.

[user7777]

My my, one of the NO IQ, has come over here to spin their crap.

The lack of real jobs, etc., didn't happen in the last year, it got worst when Gosek was in power. What company would want to move into a city were it's main streets look like a dump? Not many. they also wouldn't want their transferred employees to put up with unsafe housing also. And talk about the price to rent some of those rat traps, it's unbelievable how high they charge for rent.
It doesn't say much about our city home owners who have to be 'told' to cut their grass, shovel their snow, clean up the garbage, paint the railings, etc.. They wouldn't let their own residences look like that, would they?
Once again, your so stupid, Ed doesn't post those post on his site, but the OFD and people like you can't believe that. When he does post, its answers to questions from posters or something he will write to post and he SIGNS his NAME. You think Oswego is willing to put up with your corruption. But they aren't going to anymore.
Go crawl under your rock and stay there.

[none either]

Your thinking is so twisted you will never see past your anger towards the Gosek admin. Just what did the last council do to make the job market worse in Oswego? Your the idiot if you believe that clening up a couple houses on bridge st has anything to do with bringing business to Oswego. As far as what people charge for rent its none of the city or your concen unless you want to rent one of those places, and if you don't like the price there are a lot of rentals in Oswego to chose from.
Also what is posted on EDs site is up to him, he edits the site does he not. The picture of the sunbather must of slipped thru along with all the smart remarks he makes about the FD and city employees.
He was elected to better the city, not to act like an idiot.
Again you have to throw out the corruption BS towards everyone who speaks out against Ed and the councils foolishness.
FYI I have no connections with Mr Gosek besides the fact that I know him thru business dealings. You need to grow up lady and stop using the IO and Gosek crap to defend your brainless actions.
Do yourself a favor and try and restrain from the rude comments, you sound like the people your so offended by.
Whats wrong can't you answer any of the questions concerning what the new council has done FOR the economy without trying to change the subject with your Gosek crap?

[WatchingWaiting]

My turn. I hate the name no IQer.
Clean up Bridge Street. A damn good idea if you ask me. The main drag of the city is plain ugly. Yes it needs to be cleaned up. If you are a resident you should care how your city is looked at by out of towners driving through. You want business here? Make it at a minimum look attractive. Give the people who drive through a reason to want to stop. If it looks like a ghetto town, do you think they will want to stop?
You make Ed Harrington's web site sound like a place were people are trashed for no good reason. I sure as hell don't read it thataway. I see him pointing out problem areas that are brought to his attention. I won't give him credit for coming up with the ideas. If the website was so bad, the council WOULD do something about it. The only ones complaining are the ones who are trying to cover up their own unethical doings.
And what do you think this city can do about keeping the youth here? If you haven't noticed, its not just Oswego losing its young educated. Most of NYS is suffering. You can't pin this on one city. All areas around us are missing out. If you ask me, I think downstate and NYC are sucking the rest of the state dry. That's where people go.
The only thing I want to say about Gosek and crew, and the previous administrations, is they let this city go to hell. Taking beautiful old historical houses and letting them be chopped up to little apartments and further run down. There is no frigging pride in Oswego because the wealthy scum have been running it for years. If you want money invested in Oswego by locals and non-locals, it has to be a decent place to begin with to invest in AND it needs something to offer.

[user7777]

Watching Waiting,
Thank you, good post. We are digging out a little at a time, things will turn around.
YES NY state is having a hard time now. We have excellent schools and for a few reasons, TAXES and energy costs, we aren't attracting big companies anymore, they all go South or elsewhere.

[none either]

I'm not nor did I say that Oswego is the only place with economic problems. Sitting on their behinds and cleaning 104 is not going to bring any business to this city. Its pizzing of the business owners who are trying to scrape a living of a dieing city. Chain stores and pizza shops that pay low wages are not helping. Its time the city council used its heads and looked at tech jobs or using the lake and river to attract business. Offer incentives that will help develop the city and help the businesses that are here stay here.
You all want a little city with pretty streets and historic homes to showcase, well who is going to pay for all this. The people who opened a business in an old building because thats all they can afford and are being told now that they MUST make it pretty or they will be fined. REAL SMART. Jerks like Ed pushed for the laws becuse they have vendettas against certian people and this was an easy way to get back at them.
As for Eds site, you and others only see what you want. Its Eds site and he controls what is posted, unlike this site he picks what is being posted before it can be seen by the readers.
Also about the landlords buying historic homes and turing them into apts. is none of the cities or your business. If a house is for sold the owner is the one who decides what he or she wants to do with it.
If you want to keep all of the old homes in Oswego for historic value so you can walk by them once a year and think how nice it was back then BUY THEM YOURSELF. If you can't afford to do that and someone alse wants to make a living for their family by making them into apartments its none of your concern is it.

[Truth]

You make it sound easy to bring in big business. One of the reasons big business won't come here is taxes.

Why do you think taxes are so high?

Cleaning up the appearance of this city may be something that is fruitless in keeping folks here or attracting business. But at the same time, what can it hurt?

Tell you what, I sure as hell don't want to live on the lake during the winter. Nice place for a summer home though.

[none]

No you didn't say that Oswego was the only place with problems. But because it is all around us makes it that much tougher to offer something different. Yeah, taxes are a big problem. Pissing off business owners? By making them have a business that looks nice? Boy is that screwed up. You must like walking into a shabby business. Or living in a shabby apartment. Maybe you should go talk to a few of them business owners. The little downtown businesses suffer because no one wants to shop down there. And rent is sky high for them buildings. Why start up a business just to piss away your profits to some landlord. Throw taxes on top. You are lucky to afford a bolonie sandwich after.
Ed controlling posts, huh? He had a couple negative ones lately. He is trying to make a difference. Are you jealous of that? What do you have against him? Did he do something to you? If his website was such a problem, I think lots more people would be screaming and kicking. I don't see that happening.
If a would be owner knew there were restrictions on the house they were buying, well then they don't need to buy it. There is a good reason the property value in the city has a poor return. I blame it on the destruction of family neighborhoods due to rental units catering to the college. That Thomas apartment building should have gone up by the college.

[none either]

If it was easy the council would be all over bringing new business here. Like most things worth while it won't be easy and may take years to accomplish, but not doing anything will never bring any businesses here. The Economic Devolopment Committee makes a big deal out of new pizza shops like its helping the community. They and the council need to pick a new direction and give up on the idea that mfg. jobs will ever come back to NY.
Cleaning up Bridge St would be a fantastic idea if they helped the people do it (Mexico NY for example) and not burden businesses that are just getting by. That does hurt. I personally believe it was a dirty move to cause grief to a couple bars and the owners that Ed and others on the council have problems with.
Take the money set aside for the lighthouse (not the grant, they can give that back) and give the property and business owners a loan or helping hand. There are other ways to bring business here besides fixing a broken railing on someones porch. SUNY Oswego is developing a very lagre tech. program maybe Oswego should use that to entice businesses to a least look at the city. Very simular to what Rochester does and Syracuse does with their universities.
The tax problem is a state problem and I don't expect the city to solve that but they can help with local taxes. Hell they did for Indeck and few other businesses in the economic zone.

Tompinks county is an example of changing direction to meet the times.
The County applied on behalf of a consortium of 21 different local companies for a high-tech worker grant for the purpose of training incumbent workers in high-tech occupations.

The County has been awarded the grant from the State of New York in the amount of $453,818, and

The funds will pay 75 percent of training costs to over 500 individuals in 31 separate skill areas including web page development, systems analysis, networking, data recovery, and advanced software applications, and the remaining 25 percent will be paid by the consortium members.

These funds will assist local businesses in meeting the ever-changing skill demands of their technology workers to help them remain viable and vital parts of our state’s economy.

They chased a grant for a lighthouse how about one that helps the people who make up this city.

[none either]

In response to none, I do have a problem with Ed and his theatrics. I think he is a jerk. The best thing about Ed is that one of these days someone is going to run into him on the street and kick the crap out of him. Yes I do have a problem with scum bags who use public offices for their personal vendettas.
His term is over soon and because of his BS and childish actions I'll bet won't be back in office again. He'll have to retreat back into the hole he climbed out of.

[justme]

Hey none either, you got some good ideas there. Too bad the council doesn't know what they are doing. And they are to dum to listen.

[ABCs]

I can see that the no IQers are here today......easy to spot their ignorant posts. Lets see--JustMe, easy to see who she is, none either, another one from there.

Watering holes [bars] aren't the type of business we need here. We have enough of them and most of their owners have never grown up.......

When Frank Hale was here, he wasn't just promoting the local business', he was trying to sell our community to out of towner's. The current Chamber is to into their selves, to social, and looking for photo opportunities.

[none either]

And you pretty much just repeated what the No IQers said. Who said anything about supporting bars or bringing new bars to Oswego?
You really need to relax and read what was posted and not twist it to fit your displease with the bar owners.

[none either]

sorry abouts the spelling doing several things at once and I hate spell check.

[ABCs]

No I could never be in agreement with those low lifes.

[none either]

Its nice to see that ABCs has so much intelligence in their post, so much more than the IOs. Name calling is not an opinion. If you want to call people names be adult enough to add a little substance to your comment so we can decipher what your problem is.
Then you should stop repeating what the IO people have already posted. Its shows ignorance when you call a person names and then agree with them.
You must be an avid reader of IO like the others who complain about the site yet seem to know everything that is posted there. Did someone put you in your place on IO, so now you feel you need to attack anyone who posts there?
Very immature.

[ABCs]

You be posting here for much longer.....

[ABCs]

ABCs said:

You be posting here for much longer.....

I meant to post ,you won't be posting on the Chat much longer.

[none either]

REALLY, WHEN DID TRUTH TURN OVER THE SITE TO YOU? You obviously can't deal with a liitle confrontation or admit when you are being childish. Grow up and try to act like an adult. This isn't your private sounding booth where everyone is going to agree with you and let you insult them. That may work at your home, but welcome to the internet where people don't have to agree with your remarks and will reply to them.
Have a wonderful day.

[thecleaninglady]

wow...this has gotten off subject...
maybe you guys should take it to
The Pit...

[none either is now deceased]

Nah I'm done. The insults are lame anyway. My wife calls me worse when shes in a good mood.
Its funny to see people get all mad and point fingers while they act just like the ones they are complaing about.
And I was trying to be nice.
Ya all take care.

[noshitsherlock]

none said:

Its nice to see that ABCs has so much intelligence in their post, so much more than the IOs. Name calling is not an opinion.

When you start name calling, you just threw away any good points of the post. I sure as hell won't listen to it.

[NONE EITHER REBORN]

That was sarcasm, as I am the one being referred to as the NO IQer.
Sorry I should restrain from sarcasm and just state the points.