Current LION Claims

[Truth]

Posted at the LION:


MR. EDITOR,
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE POSTINGS ON INSIDE OSWEGO STATING THAT YOU:

(1) ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO USE YOUR WEB SITE FOR A POLITICAL TOOL AND THAT YOU ARE DISOBEYING BATEMAN'S REQUEST?

(2) THAT SOME BOZO (MOST LIKELY DITTO). POSTED THAT HIS INFO WAS FROM POLITICAL FIGURES AND CITIZENS THAT YOU NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN YOUR SITE OR YOUR POSITION AS 3RD WARD ALDERMAN?

(3) THAT YOU PUBLICLY DEFIED BATEMAN?


AND TO THE POSTER ON IO WHO SAID JOHN GOSEK WAS THE BEST MAYOR WE EVER HAD,YOU WILL ROT IN HELL WITH HIM AND OTHER PEDOPHILES. AND TO THE ONE WHO COMMENTED ON IT.'KITTENCAT' ARE YOU AS SICK AS HIM OR ARE YOU ONE OF HIS UNDERAGE LOVERS TOO?
HAMMER FOR JUSTICE

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First off, we can't say that Gosek was the best mayor and that statement was purely subjective. If his decisions pertaining to city management were effective, time will tell. His personal life is another matter although he did use city resources for carrying out this "life" he chose. In fairness I'll provide this analogy. Like Pete Rose in baseball, even though he was banned from the Hall of Fame, his accomplishments on the field can not be annulled.

Back to the LION post, you see Ed didn't answer. He didn't filter it either. I'm not sure why this is the case.

But the recent accusations, true or false, did present something I hadn't thought of before.

He can use his website as a one-sided commentary for his agenda. After looking through the old posts he had there, I began to see it potentially as a Fox News hybrid. Aside from the national political bickering which is fairly abundant at the LION, there is almost no local bickering. Why? Could be a couple reasons.
1)He is presenting a bias. Particularly with the former mayor and his associates. These guys were no saints, but neither is Harrington. Nor any of us for that matter. At this time, the mayor is serving his term and the judicial system did its part. Lets move on.
2)No one who opposes him bothers to send him anything because they suspect he won't post it. This scenario of course is no fault of Ed's.

I truly believe he needs to have a completely open, honest web site or shut it down while he is in office. Such a website can easily manipulate the casual reader because of its format. Unlike this website where immediate response can be viewed, as I understand it, the posts on his website are received by email and he basically cuts and pastes them, appending to the top, of his news page. There is no tracking available of these emails making highly questionable as far as integrity goes. On this site, all posts can be tracked to the internet provider.

Comments?

[Admin]

Let me add that the purpose for being able to track on this website, as IPs are logged, is to ban (ab)users as necessary. I believe the same exists at IO however it is not presented as common knowledge. We have nothing to hide here and try to run an upfront and unbiased free forum to people of Oswego. There is no hidden agenda. We wish to have this place become a friendly online community. We encourage all to participate.

[USER7777]

truth4all said:

Posted at the LION:


MR. EDITOR,
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE POSTINGS ON INSIDE OSWEGO STATING THAT YOU:

(1) ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO USE YOUR WEB SITE FOR A POLITICAL TOOL AND THAT YOU ARE DISOBEYING BATEMAN'S REQUEST?

(2) THAT SOME BOZO (MOST LIKELY DITTO). POSTED THAT HIS INFO WAS FROM POLITICAL FIGURES AND CITIZENS THAT YOU NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN YOUR SITE OR YOUR POSITION AS 3RD WARD ALDERMAN?

(3) THAT YOU PUBLICLY DEFIED BATEMAN?


AND TO THE POSTER ON IO WHO SAID JOHN GOSEK WAS THE BEST MAYOR WE EVER HAD,YOU WILL ROT IN HELL WITH HIM AND OTHER PEDOPHILES. AND TO THE ONE WHO COMMENTED ON IT.'KITTENCAT' ARE YOU AS SICK AS HIM OR ARE YOU ONE OF HIS UNDERAGE LOVERS TOO?
HAMMER FOR JUSTICE

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First off, we can't say that Gosek was the best mayor and that statement was purely subjective. If his decisions pertaining to city management were effective, time will tell. His personal life is another matter although he did use city resources for carrying out this "life" he chose. In fairness I'll provide this analogy. Like Pete Rose in baseball, even though he was banned from the Hall of Fame, his accomplishments on the field can not be annulled.

Back to the LION post, you see Ed didn't answer. He didn't filter it either. I'm not sure why this is the case.

But the recent accusations, true or false, did present something I hadn't thought of before.

He can use his website as a one-sided commentary for his agenda. After looking through the old posts he had there, I began to see it potentially as a Fox News hybrid. Aside from the national political bickering which is fairly abundant at the LION, there is almost no local bickering. Why? Could be a couple reasons.
1)He is presenting a bias. Particularly with the former mayor and his associates. These guys were no saints, but neither is Harrington. Nor any of us for that matter. At this time, the mayor is serving his term and the judicial system did its part. Lets move on.
2)No one who opposes him bothers to send him anything because they suspect he won't post it. This scenario of course is no fault of Ed's.

I truly believe he needs to have a completely open, honest web site or shut it down while he is in office. Such a website can easily manipulate the casual reader because of its format. Unlike this website where immediate response can be viewed, as I understand it, the posts on his website are received by email and he basically cuts and pastes them, appending to the top, of his news page. There is no tracking available of these emails making highly questionable as far as integrity goes. On this site, all posts can be tracked to the internet provider.

Comments?

YOU SHOULDN'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS TRUTH.
I know from talking to several councilors over the years, that preparing for Common Council Meeting days and working on Budgets at this time of the year are long and draining. Tonight there will be very important discusions and votes. I know who wrote that post and Ed will answer it, its not because he neglected it, sometimes weekends get very busy with phones calls fron constituents, etc that have to be taken care of and they are a first priority. You might find out some day what its all about!
I know who posted that on the LION, and they were just asking about the tales posted on IO.

[Truth]

Well I am curious what Ed's take is on the hype.

And can you see any veracity in my last paragraph. Outside of 'if Ed was instructed by R. Bateman', his website can cater very easily to the message he personally wants to send out. Would he in fact post emails that oppose his views, especially those emails that are sound? The readers must have complete and utter faith that Ed discloses all he is sent. This is why I made the comparison to Fox News. Ever watch Hanity and Colmes? Talk about one-sided. If I want to get the blood pressure up, I just turn that news farce on.

[USER7777]

GEE TRUTH, I see posts there all the time that disagree with others and Ed.
It is his site and he is the editor. What he post and doesn't post is his business. You do the same think really!
hagn .......meeting will start soon,bye.

[USER7777]

USER7777 said:

GEE TRUTH, I see posts there all the time that disagree with others and Ed.
It is his site and he is the editor. What he post and doesn't post is his business. You do the same think really!
hagn .......meeting will start soon,bye.

opps meant to say,"You do the same thing really!"

[Truth]

USER7777 said:

GEE TRUTH, I see posts there all the time that disagree with others and Ed.
It is his site and he is the editor. What he post and doesn't post is his business. You do the same thing really!
hagn .......meeting will start soon,bye.

Ah...big difference. Here, as you have done yourself, you can post immediately for all to see. And, may I ask, have you had one of your posts deleted? Be honest.

This website is not "governed" by one person, and there are times when littlet and myself have talked about moving posts to "The Pit", but they are still not deleted. Also, the cleaninglady has graciously accepted to be a moderator as well. Three heads are better than one!

Now, based on your statement "It is his site and he is the editor. What he post and doesn't post is his business. " I find it difficult to understand why you don't see a potential problem. I can tell you that I have sent him posts that he did not put up. Yes it is his business, but if he were to post here, and I knew it was him, he would be a welcomed poster and his comments would be deserving like anyone else's. Unless he was to post something that directly violated the Proboards terms, his post would also remain. I am not a believer in censorship.

Now tell me you don't see a difference.

[USER7777]

Why YES,I have had some of my post not put on or edited. At first I didn't understand why,but as I have continued to post there,it has become less and less.

Jackie Kennedy once said "your editor is like your mother".

I have only been posting for 13 months, in someways I have learned a lot. even though I have always been a writer and was a Editor once of a monthly newsletter,I have learned a lot in those 13 months.

[Truth]

(CC meeting over)

OK, but here you've not experienced censorship to anything was not objectionable. Right? You can say just about anything here. And there is no reason discussions can't be had without inflammatory remarks and put downs. But as we have seen, it doesn't lure in the masses of visitors to be respectful.

[The Lakester]

USER7777 said:

: I have always been a writer and was a Editor once of a monthly newsletter,I have learned a lot in those 13 months.

Recently, I saw you correct a poster on his English. So you say that you have always been a writer and was "a" Editor.

I'm impressed.