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Post by Garfield on Jun 17, 2008 6:12:58 GMT -5
Alderman Mike Joyce (R-Seventh Ward) requested a discussion regarding having the city pave Sophie Drive.
The development is in the Seventh Ward and is owned by John Darling.
It would cost approximately $11,000 for the city to put down the base coat of blacktop.
FREE BLACKTOP......I paid for my driveway and I pay taxes.
State Sen. Darrel Aubertine might yet get office space rent-free in City Hall.
However Joyce noted that while he isn’t opposed to having the senator have an office at City Hall he just feels he should pay some sort of rent.
Too bad Aubertine doesn't need a new driveway, he could get that for free if it was up to Joyce.
Mr Joyce doesn't seem to have any common sense. He wants to give away city money in hope of getting it back in about 5 or 6 years. Well if he gives me about 50 thousand I'll put a new addition on my house and he can recoup it in taxes over time. Matter of fact my dog would like an addition on her house too.
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Post by ComeOnFatMAN on Jun 17, 2008 6:30:43 GMT -5
Well Joyce isn't a man of honesty and integrity, if his pals Dunssmoor and S. Thomas wanted something-your better believe they would get it!
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Post by get this on Jun 17, 2008 7:54:21 GMT -5
Aren't Darling and Joyce friends? That says it all friends. The Gosek mentality is in full swing.
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Post by anonymous on Jun 17, 2008 8:30:43 GMT -5
Will it be a city road? If it is then it is NOT a driveway.
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Post by disgusted on Jun 17, 2008 8:35:22 GMT -5
From the best online News source for Oswego.
Committee Debates Whether To Assist Developer
Posted by Steve Yablonski on 17 Jun 2008 at 5:46 am
OSWEGO, NY - At Monday night’s Physical Services Committee, Alderman Mike Joyce (R-Seventh Ward) requested a discussion regarding having the city pave Sophie Drive.
The development is in the Seventh Ward and is owned by John Darling.
Joyce pointed out that the money the city spends to help out the developer will be returned to the city in just a few years in the form of property taxes.
It would cost approximately $11,000 for the city to put down the base coat of blacktop, he noted.
Each of the developer’s eight townhouses would be assessed for more than $178,000.
“So, in about five years, with our labor cost and everything, we should see a return on our money,” Joyce said. “I think this is a good, positive start in development … the city will be showing a return within a certain period of time.”
Council Vice President Connie Cosemento (D-First Ward) pointed out that another developer did much the same thing (about the same size) in the First Ward and didn’t come to the city to ask for any favors.
“I don’t feel the city should get in the development business,” she said. “Our equipment takes on a huge hit when we’re doing larger projects like this.”
The city is taking a chance that the properties actually get sold and put on the tax rolls, she added.
She’d rather not use taxpayers’ dollars to develop property.
“I just think it’s a bad thing for a city to do,” she said.
Joyce noted that the developer is separating sanitary and storm sewers; that’s something the DEC wants the city to do.
“He’s really developing the Seventh Ward the way we need it,” he said, calling it “a great asset for the city.”
“I think we’re being developer-friendly by doing this,” he continued. “We need to grow as a city.”
“We don’t need to grow at the cost of the taxpayers,” Cosemento responded.
“In the past, the city has gone out of its way to assist developers with various things,” Mayor Randy Bateman said.
There is one, he added, that’s left a bad taste in the city’s mouth “because the whole thing sits empty right now.”
“I guess you could say we should help developers,” he said.
Bateman said he is in favor of continuing to discuss the situation with the developer to find a compromise that’s beneficial to both parties.
For example, he noted that if the developer doesn’t complete the entire project, that he give the city an amount equivalent to the tax revenue.
Talks will continue between the developer and the city prior to the council taking any action.
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Post by Magnum on Jun 17, 2008 8:40:40 GMT -5
Did you ever notice that Joyce, Myers, and Walker look alike. I know they're all obese and are in need of a serious diet plan, but they look like they came from the same litter. I still can't believe that the people voted these three and Queen Sweet into office.  |
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Post by guest on Jun 17, 2008 8:52:30 GMT -5
Do you people realize how much money
Darling is going to make selling this
property?
He needs to pay for it himself.
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Post by ComeOnFatMan on Jun 17, 2008 10:21:20 GMT -5
Aren't Darling and Joyce friends? That says it all friends. The Gosek mentality is in full swing. Darling is a brother to Sally Nettles! |
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Post by ComeOnFatMAN on Jun 19, 2008 7:49:11 GMT -5
The Joyce man works with Darling also.
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Post by lou c fer on Jun 24, 2008 5:59:51 GMT -5
The Common Council voted 4-3 Monday night in favor of assisting a local developer. Joyce, Myers, Sweet, and Walker were the ones who just opened the door for a bunch of lawsuits. FOUR IDIOTS who should of never been elected. It must be fat guys and dumb bimbos think alike.  |
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Post by casobservr on Jun 24, 2008 7:59:09 GMT -5
The Common Council voted 4-3 Monday night in favor of assisting a local developer. Joyce, Myers, Sweet, and Walker were the ones who just opened the door for a bunch of lawsuits. FOUR IDIOTS who should of never been elected. It must be fat guys and dumb bimbos think alike. I can not believe this got pushed through. All the newbies voted yes? Thank you Yes voting aldermen. Oswego citizens are now going to pay for a private developers private road. Hey Lazarek, you watching this? |
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Post by metoo on Jun 24, 2008 8:15:41 GMT -5
Hey I want my driveway paved? Should I call Mike Joyce and have the city do it?
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Post by ComeOnFatMAN on Jun 24, 2008 10:49:05 GMT -5
THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE aGENDA ONLINE ABOUT A VOTE LAST NIGHT, IT WAS PROBABLY PUSHED THROUGH.
THE STRAW HEADED LADY IS HELPING TO PAYBACK JOYCE'S PAYBACKS.
NOT ON OF THOSE 4 HAS A BRAIN AND LOGIC, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
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Post by ComeOnFatMAN on Jun 24, 2008 10:50:24 GMT -5
THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE aGENDA ONLINE ABOUT A VOTE LAST NIGHT, IT WAS PROBABLY PUSHED THROUGH. THE STRAW HEADED LADY IS HELPING TO PAYBACK JOYCE'S PAYBACKS. NOT ON OF THOSE 4 HAS A BRAIN AND LOGIC, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. meant 'one-not on' |
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Post by lou c fer on Jun 24, 2008 13:28:46 GMT -5
Joyce, Myers, Sweet, and Walker  |
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Post by Garfield on Jun 25, 2008 8:51:11 GMT -5
If these four and the mayor had pulled this crap 20 years ago they would of been tarred, feathered and sent adrift in a leaky boat. Oh how sad it is that people just sit back and accept it when they get screwed. These four are working for the same dirt bag landlords and bar owners who just ruined the reputation of what was once a nice city to live in. As rotten as it sounds I'd love to see the three fat ass council members drop dead of a heart attack and the bimbo get hit by a train. Just in case something real bad happens to any of the above mentioned idiots, I was out of town that day.  |
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Post by HOTtopic on Jun 25, 2008 11:03:15 GMT -5
"If these four and the mayor had pulled this crap 20 years ago they would of been tarred, feathered and sent adrift in a leaky boat."
More like 40 yrs. ago! CAhillist and Lazarist were very corrupt, very well hidden though.
OH well the Strawheaded lady and the 3 turds got their way for their supporters. Did any of them finish pass the 6th grade? Where's the logic to their votes?
The 7th ward didn't need $178,000 priced townhouses to open it up! It has been opening up for a long time.
When people make ignorant decision like those 4 did, it only makes out City look more back wards.
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Post by oswego on Jun 25, 2008 11:20:26 GMT -5
Mike Joyce is well educated. It is a shame to see him get involved with corrupt individuals. I had until recently felt he was a very decent person. To give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he will explain his decision to those of us in the 7th Ward, not to mention the entire city. I certainly would like to know why he voted like he did.
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Post by newsreading on Jun 25, 2008 11:31:52 GMT -5
www.palltimes.com/news/x1743980282/Oswego-strives-to-be-developer-friendlyCosemento is right. The city is not a bank. There is procedure for making these kinds of changes. Joyce has a point about the developer repaying the city. No big deal. But the city should collect interest. The city doesn't need to expand. We have plenty of houses. New housing depresses other areas of the city further. If you haven't noticed, educated people are moving away. Where do Joyce and Darling live?
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Post by watching on Jul 3, 2008 5:48:41 GMT -5
The Mayor vetoed Resolution # 250-2008 which was passed by the Oswego Common Council on June 23, 2008.
Resolution #250-2008 calls for the paving of Sophie Drive, installing the base layer in 2008 and the top layer after the last of eight townhouses have been completed.
At least the mayor knows the rules.
I'm sure Joyce, Sweet, Myers, and Walker will be looking for a way to back door the residents and the mayor.
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Post by aguest on Jul 3, 2008 7:42:13 GMT -5
The Mayor vetoed Resolution # 250-2008 which was passed by the Oswego Common Council on June 23, 2008. Resolution #250-2008 calls for the paving of Sophie Drive, installing the base layer in 2008 and the top layer after the last of eight townhouses have been completed. At least the mayor knows the rules. I'm sure Joyce, Sweet, Myers, and Walker will be looking for a way to back door the residents and the mayor. It was just for show. Bateman knows it will get overturned. |
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Post by nah nah on Jul 9, 2008 11:30:16 GMT -5
Well, it didn't get overturned.
The fats guys and the witch lost.
I'm sure that the Mike I'll eat anything Joyce and Mikey the Runt Myers have some more little deals they'll be trying to sneak past the residents real soon.
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Post by ComeOnFatMan on Jul 9, 2008 15:17:21 GMT -5
The fatboys and the bitch whined and got what they wanted. A lost for the City of Oswego, sorry Vicki that you had to deal with those current Negative Commom Council Idiots
Mikey tells people that he is going to run for Mayor..LOL.what an ares.
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Post by noxie on Jul 10, 2008 6:07:47 GMT -5
Lard ass Mikey for mayor.......now thats funny. If he doesn't push his fat ass away from the feed troth soon, the only thing he'll be running for is the pearly gates. The three pigs Walker, Joyce, and Myers don't look like they have a lot of time left on top of the grass. Thank God we don't have to feed council members.  |
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Post by U voted for them on Jul 12, 2008 14:32:40 GMT -5
There were some very good candidates that ran against the four horse butts. Where were you all then??? "Gosek mentality".. you bet, the whole rotten city has it. YOU/WE deserve it. In the upcoming election make sure you vote for the good ole boy running.
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Post by ComeOnFatMAN on Jul 12, 2008 16:38:28 GMT -5
I think a lot of us didn't vote for walker, juicy, sweet, or myers.
There was a lot of correction in the last election, dirty money.
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Post by deceived on Jul 16, 2008 11:03:18 GMT -5
Mike Joyce has become a disgrace to his family name! I feel sorry for his children.
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Post by seenenough on Jul 16, 2008 11:59:00 GMT -5
I'd be ashamed to show my face if I was anyone of them.
Joyce has always been two faced and out for himself. Myers is a fat little chump who knows it all, or at least he thinks he does. Walker should be in prison and we all know what Sue is.
Unfortunately for the residents of Oswego most people who vote don't check the history of those they vote for. The majority of people vote for someone because of what they've heard on the streets.
Two years of these people should be one hell of a wake up call for everyone.
Its getting to the point that I can't stand going to the council meetings because of the stupid comments that comes out of these dimwits.
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